MERRY CHRISTMAS, KNOW THAT JESUS CHRIST IS KING!!!!!!!!
OH by the way. No one is ever born Atheists. You choose to not believe…
have a great Holiday..
Keep this going around the globe…..read it and forward every time you receive it. We can’t give up on this issue.
Paul Harvey says:
I don’t believe in Santa Claus, but I’m not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don’t agree with Darwin, but I didn’t go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.
Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game.
So what’s the big deal? It’s not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They’re just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.
But it’s a Christian prayer, some will argue.
Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect -somebody chanting Hare Krishna?
If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.
If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.
If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.
And I wouldn’t be offended.
It wouldn’t bother me one bit.
When in Rome.
But what about the atheists? is another argument.
What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We’re not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that’s asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand.
Call your lawyer!
Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don’t think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world’s foundations.
Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating; to pray before we go to sleep.
Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.
God, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you, well .. just sue me.
The silent majority has been silent too long.. It’s time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority don’t care what they want. It is time the majority rules! It’s time we tell them, you don’t have to pray; you don’t have to say the pledge of allegiance; you don’t have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back . .. and we WILL WIN!
God bless us one and all … especially those who denounce Him. God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still the greatest nation of all.
God bless our servicemen who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God..
May 2006 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
Keep looking up.
If you agree with this, please pass it on.. If not delete it
santa clause is as fake as god. grow up. i disagree 100%. u sound like me 4 years ago so i had to write something … have a nice life tho. hope u dont turn all your will over to god, hope u keep that and work on it to help yourself and your fellow human being around u in society.
It’s like nails on a chalkboard when people like Paul Harvey perpetuate the myth that this country was “founded on Christian Principles.” Read a book and educate yourself.
P.S. People don’t “Pray to Buddha.” You’re an idiot.
Paul’s got the basis for a tolerant comment there but then he goes and ruins it by comments like “God bless America, she is still the greatest nation of all”. Better to have said she’s still a great nation then leap straight to the top. Out here in the rest of the world you lost your greatest status years ago. Now you’re top of the league of rogue nations. Lost your chance by following the man when he said “you’re either with us or you’re against us”. It was downhill all the way after that.
Also… “God bless our servicemen who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God”…!!! You must be joking. Tell me you are… There’s so much to disagree with about that comment that I’m going to have to leave. This is not my forum so I’ll respect The Athiest Mama and let it go.
Thanks for giving me space.
Have a good year.
Omar said,
on January 5th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Very interesting piece, and while nicely written, I’ll have to disagree with Mr. Harvey on, well, everything.
Let us begin with Christmas. According to Mr. Harvey, our litigious society has made it virtually impossible to observe the holidays the way we did in the old days. People are suing left and right because they find a particular holiday display to be offensive on the grounds that it does not support their “religious views.” For example, in Dec 2006, a Rabbi threatened to sue Seattle’s International Airport because they had a Christmas display but no display represented the Jewish holiday. In response, the airport removed all Christmas trees ( here’s the CNN news report: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/12/10/airport.christmas.trees.ap/ ).
So who are these people imposing restrictions on holiday displays? Other RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, of course. There have been no law suits filed by Atheists who claim the holiday displays to be offensive. If you don’t believe me, do a search on google… that’s how I found the Rabbi’s law suit.
The second point I will cover is the mistaken belief that the “United States of America is a country founded on Christian principles.” If you take a moment to review the constitution, you’ll discover that religion played no part in its conception or the country’s foundation.
Religion makes only one direct and obvious appearance in the original Constitution that seems to point to a desire for some degree of religious freedom. That appearance is in Article 6, at the end of the third clause: [N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
This statement is simple and straight-forward, and applies to all offices in the entire United States, both state and federal. The clause simply means that no public position can be required to be held by any one of any religious denomination. It would be unconstitutional, for example, for there to be a requirement that the President be Lutheran, or even for the mayor of a small town to be Christian. Likewise, it would be unconstitutional for a law to forbid a Jew or Muslim from holding any office in any governmental jurisdiction in the United States.
James Madison, when speaking of the method and manner of the election of the members of the Congress, noted that even “Religion itself may become a motive to persecution and oppression,” telegraphing his own desire for no religious test for government service.
There is one other direct bow to religion in the original Constitution, and it is a bit obtuse. The Presidential Oath of Office is codified in the Constitution in this way: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Again, the reference might be obtuse, but it is the inclusion of language in the oath that allows an incoming President to swear or affirm the oath. This alternate text has been described both as a way of accommodating those religious persons for whom “swearing” was forbidden, and as a way for the unreligious to take the oath with the same force of personal responsibility that swearing would have for a religious person. Either way, the alternate text attempts to make the oath all-inclusive and religion-neutral.
I’ve read some of the correspondence between the founding fathers and discovered that not only did they emphatically support the separation of religion and state, but went as far as to decry the ills of religious fervor as a detriment to advancement of society and science.
The simple fact of history is that the greatest evil has always resulted from denial of God, not pursuit of Him. Dennis Prager has noted, “In this [20th] century alone, more innocent people have been murdered, tortured, and enslaved by secular ideologiesnazism and communismthan by all religions in history.”
Grab an older copy of the Guinness Book of World Records and turn to the category “Judicial,” sub-heading “Crimes: Mass Killings.” You’ll find that carnage of unimaginable proportions resulted not from religion, but from institutionalized atheism.
Guinness reports, “The greatest massacre ever imputed by the government of one sovereign against another is the 26.3 million Chinese killed during the regime of Mao Zedong between 1949 and May 1965. The Walker Report published by the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary in July 1971 placed…the total death toll in China since 1949 between 32.25 and 61.7 million.”
In the USSR, Nobel Prize winner Alexander Solzhenitsyn estimated that state repression and terrorism took over 66 million lives from 1917 to 1959 under Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev.
The worst per capita genocide happened in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. According to Guinness, “More than one third of the eight million Khmers were killed between April 17, 1975 and January 1979.”
The greatest evil does not result from people zealous for God. It results when people are convinced there is no God to whom they must answer.
Excerpted from:
Christianity’s Real Record
By Gregory Koukl
How many convert to believing in Santa Claus later in life? Assuming everything is intact (mentally), none.
I became a Christian (Catholic) in 2004 when I was 24.
I don’t see the 2 beliefs as being the same thing.
david Neil said,
on May 16th, 2007 at 9:50 am
I read things like this and think… who are these people? Have they nothing in their lives better to do? It is a testiment to how shallow the education system is in this country. There is no understanding of religion from the commentors of the religious side and no understanding of atheisum from the non religious side. It is the blind scraping with the blind, or two deff mutts in a slagg off!
I will close by evoking the single most worshipped deity on the planet, although I consider myself happy and Godless…
Good luck!
Meli said,
on September 28th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Beverly says “nobody is born an atheist” , and I bet she hasn’t even observed children. When children are born, they don’t start talking about God or Jesus. They just want to experience the world around them. They are not concerned with the God concept. To them even the tiniest insignificant thing is just as big for them as your god is for you. They don’t need to choose to believe or not. It is unimportant for them. Only when society starts to tamper with that innocence and brainwash the purest mind, that is when there is the need to choose to become an atheist, or as I call it, our natural state.
My first resonse is that children are not pure of mind any more than anyone else of another age. One would think some people have never heard of Lord of the Flies, or have kids other than angelic. That’s utterly absurd on its face.
Jesusistanis like “Beverly” have no concept of what free will actually is, and most of them also conveniently forgot about what Christ said in regards to how to treat the less fortunate. They NEVER want to talk about what Christ said, they want nothing but to trot out that tired, stupid “persecuted Christian” Jesusistan gabbledygook.
When she says that our soldiers are protecting our right to “worship God,” you can bet that she means HER version. The Jesusistanis have had a good ride with the moronic monkey in the White House, and they have definitely infiltrated every level of the Republican Party. Not coincidentally, the Republican Party is presently in a rapid state of decline.
Do ya reckon maybe they AIN’T the most Godly after all?
on July 30th, 2006 at 11:10 am
browardatheists.com
on December 8th, 2006 at 4:47 pm
MERRY CHRISTMAS, KNOW THAT JESUS CHRIST IS KING!!!!!!!!
OH by the way. No one is ever born Atheists. You choose to not believe…
have a great Holiday..
Keep this going around the globe…..read it and forward every time you receive it. We can’t give up on this issue.
Paul Harvey says:
I don’t believe in Santa Claus, but I’m not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don’t agree with Darwin, but I didn’t go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.
Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game.
So what’s the big deal? It’s not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They’re just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.
But it’s a Christian prayer, some will argue.
Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect -somebody chanting Hare Krishna?
If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.
If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.
If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.
And I wouldn’t be offended.
It wouldn’t bother me one bit.
When in Rome.
But what about the atheists? is another argument.
What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We’re not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that’s asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand.
Call your lawyer!
Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don’t think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world’s foundations.
Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating; to pray before we go to sleep.
Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying.
God, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you, well .. just sue me.
The silent majority has been silent too long.. It’s time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard that the vast majority don’t care what they want. It is time the majority rules! It’s time we tell them, you don’t have to pray; you don’t have to say the pledge of allegiance; you don’t have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back . .. and we WILL WIN!
God bless us one and all … especially those who denounce Him. God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still the greatest nation of all.
God bless our servicemen who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God..
May 2006 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
Keep looking up.
If you agree with this, please pass it on.. If not delete it
on December 11th, 2006 at 12:33 am
santa clause is as fake as god. grow up. i disagree 100%. u sound like me 4 years ago so i had to write something … have a nice life tho. hope u dont turn all your will over to god, hope u keep that and work on it to help yourself and your fellow human being around u in society.
on December 16th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
It’s like nails on a chalkboard when people like Paul Harvey perpetuate the myth that this country was “founded on Christian Principles.” Read a book and educate yourself.
P.S. People don’t “Pray to Buddha.” You’re an idiot.
http://theGreatRealization.com
on January 4th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Paul’s got the basis for a tolerant comment there but then he goes and ruins it by comments like “God bless America, she is still the greatest nation of all”. Better to have said she’s still a great nation then leap straight to the top. Out here in the rest of the world you lost your greatest status years ago. Now you’re top of the league of rogue nations. Lost your chance by following the man when he said “you’re either with us or you’re against us”. It was downhill all the way after that.
Also… “God bless our servicemen who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God”…!!! You must be joking. Tell me you are… There’s so much to disagree with about that comment that I’m going to have to leave. This is not my forum so I’ll respect The Athiest Mama and let it go.
Thanks for giving me space.
Have a good year.
on January 5th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Very interesting piece, and while nicely written, I’ll have to disagree with Mr. Harvey on, well, everything.
Let us begin with Christmas. According to Mr. Harvey, our litigious society has made it virtually impossible to observe the holidays the way we did in the old days. People are suing left and right because they find a particular holiday display to be offensive on the grounds that it does not support their “religious views.” For example, in Dec 2006, a Rabbi threatened to sue Seattle’s International Airport because they had a Christmas display but no display represented the Jewish holiday. In response, the airport removed all Christmas trees ( here’s the CNN news report: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/12/10/airport.christmas.trees.ap/ ).
So who are these people imposing restrictions on holiday displays? Other RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, of course. There have been no law suits filed by Atheists who claim the holiday displays to be offensive. If you don’t believe me, do a search on google… that’s how I found the Rabbi’s law suit.
The second point I will cover is the mistaken belief that the “United States of America is a country founded on Christian principles.” If you take a moment to review the constitution, you’ll discover that religion played no part in its conception or the country’s foundation.
Religion makes only one direct and obvious appearance in the original Constitution that seems to point to a desire for some degree of religious freedom. That appearance is in Article 6, at the end of the third clause: [N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
This statement is simple and straight-forward, and applies to all offices in the entire United States, both state and federal. The clause simply means that no public position can be required to be held by any one of any religious denomination. It would be unconstitutional, for example, for there to be a requirement that the President be Lutheran, or even for the mayor of a small town to be Christian. Likewise, it would be unconstitutional for a law to forbid a Jew or Muslim from holding any office in any governmental jurisdiction in the United States.
James Madison, when speaking of the method and manner of the election of the members of the Congress, noted that even “Religion itself may become a motive to persecution and oppression,” telegraphing his own desire for no religious test for government service.
There is one other direct bow to religion in the original Constitution, and it is a bit obtuse. The Presidential Oath of Office is codified in the Constitution in this way: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Again, the reference might be obtuse, but it is the inclusion of language in the oath that allows an incoming President to swear or affirm the oath. This alternate text has been described both as a way of accommodating those religious persons for whom “swearing” was forbidden, and as a way for the unreligious to take the oath with the same force of personal responsibility that swearing would have for a religious person. Either way, the alternate text attempts to make the oath all-inclusive and religion-neutral.
I’ve read some of the correspondence between the founding fathers and discovered that not only did they emphatically support the separation of religion and state, but went as far as to decry the ills of religious fervor as a detriment to advancement of society and science.
on January 29th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
The simple fact of history is that the greatest evil has always resulted from denial of God, not pursuit of Him. Dennis Prager has noted, “In this [20th] century alone, more innocent people have been murdered, tortured, and enslaved by secular ideologiesnazism and communismthan by all religions in history.”
Grab an older copy of the Guinness Book of World Records and turn to the category “Judicial,” sub-heading “Crimes: Mass Killings.” You’ll find that carnage of unimaginable proportions resulted not from religion, but from institutionalized atheism.
Guinness reports, “The greatest massacre ever imputed by the government of one sovereign against another is the 26.3 million Chinese killed during the regime of Mao Zedong between 1949 and May 1965. The Walker Report published by the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary in July 1971 placed…the total death toll in China since 1949 between 32.25 and 61.7 million.”
In the USSR, Nobel Prize winner Alexander Solzhenitsyn estimated that state repression and terrorism took over 66 million lives from 1917 to 1959 under Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev.
The worst per capita genocide happened in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. According to Guinness, “More than one third of the eight million Khmers were killed between April 17, 1975 and January 1979.”
The greatest evil does not result from people zealous for God. It results when people are convinced there is no God to whom they must answer.
Excerpted from:
Christianity’s Real Record
By Gregory Koukl
on February 22nd, 2007 at 1:35 pm
pierced pussy seal…
pierced pussy seal …
on May 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 am
“santa clause is as fake as god”.
How many convert to believing in Santa Claus later in life? Assuming everything is intact (mentally), none.
I became a Christian (Catholic) in 2004 when I was 24.
I don’t see the 2 beliefs as being the same thing.
on May 16th, 2007 at 9:50 am
I read things like this and think… who are these people? Have they nothing in their lives better to do? It is a testiment to how shallow the education system is in this country. There is no understanding of religion from the commentors of the religious side and no understanding of atheisum from the non religious side. It is the blind scraping with the blind, or two deff mutts in a slagg off!
I will close by evoking the single most worshipped deity on the planet, although I consider myself happy and Godless…
Good luck!
on September 28th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Beverly says “nobody is born an atheist” , and I bet she hasn’t even observed children. When children are born, they don’t start talking about God or Jesus. They just want to experience the world around them. They are not concerned with the God concept. To them even the tiniest insignificant thing is just as big for them as your god is for you. They don’t need to choose to believe or not. It is unimportant for them. Only when society starts to tamper with that innocence and brainwash the purest mind, that is when there is the need to choose to become an atheist, or as I call it, our natural state.
on January 30th, 2008 at 10:30 am
My first resonse is that children are not pure of mind any more than anyone else of another age. One would think some people have never heard of Lord of the Flies, or have kids other than angelic. That’s utterly absurd on its face.
But still….
on March 29th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Jesusistanis like “Beverly” have no concept of what free will actually is, and most of them also conveniently forgot about what Christ said in regards to how to treat the less fortunate. They NEVER want to talk about what Christ said, they want nothing but to trot out that tired, stupid “persecuted Christian” Jesusistan gabbledygook.
When she says that our soldiers are protecting our right to “worship God,” you can bet that she means HER version. The Jesusistanis have had a good ride with the moronic monkey in the White House, and they have definitely infiltrated every level of the Republican Party. Not coincidentally, the Republican Party is presently in a rapid state of decline.
Do ya reckon maybe they AIN’T the most Godly after all?