Comments on: Let’s play a game http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html An atheist woman, mother, wife, Ohioan and American citizen blogs. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:48:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: soda_ados http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-10058 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:53:14 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-10058 1. What is your religion? Christian 2. How long have you claimed these beliefs? 3-4 years... hard to say exactly when I started really trusting God 3. Short explanation of how you arrived at these beliefs. horrible high school experience: barely made it out got into drugs started reading the bible because I didn't really understand why I didn't believe. I realized the only reason I didn't believe was because I thought christians were ignorant, cruel and annoying. I started talking with God and my life started to change. I went to college, got out of drugs, etc... 4. What do you do for a living? student/ research 5. Education level, if you are interested in sharing. obtaining a bachelors in biochemistry and possibly a minor in evolutionary biology or mathematics 6. Anything else relevent to the conversation that you think might be important. My faith is constantly attacked by "reason" at school, but a major factor in my belief was science and math, which I performed horribly in during high school. The more I learn about evolution, math and the human mind the more I believe that there is a God. I'm not saying there aren't days that I don't have doubts, but my experiences with God (the way my life has changed among other things) is more powerful then the mounds of evidence I find for either side of the debate. 1. What is your religion?
Christian

2. How long have you claimed these beliefs?
3-4 years… hard to say exactly when I started really trusting God

3. Short explanation of how you arrived at these beliefs.
horrible high school experience: barely made it out got into drugs
started reading the bible because I didn’t really understand why I didn’t believe. I realized the only reason I didn’t believe was because I thought christians were ignorant, cruel and annoying.
I started talking with God and my life started to change. I went to college, got out of drugs, etc…
4. What do you do for a living?
student/ research
5. Education level, if you are interested in sharing.
obtaining a bachelors in biochemistry and possibly a minor in evolutionary biology or mathematics
6. Anything else relevent to the conversation that you think might be important.
My faith is constantly attacked by “reason” at school, but a major factor in my belief was science and math, which I performed horribly in during high school. The more I learn about evolution, math and the human mind the more I believe that there is a God. I’m not saying there aren’t days that I don’t have doubts, but my experiences with God (the way my life has changed among other things) is more powerful then the mounds of evidence I find for either side of the debate.

]]> by: shoeless http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-1202 Mon, 10 Jul 2006 05:45:17 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-1202 1. What is your religion? Christian 2. How long have you claimed these beliefs? 23 years 3. Short explanation of how you arrived at these beliefs. A process between growing up in a Christian family, essentially sliding away from my faith in college, and returning to it later in college after a lot of reflection, study and personal experience. Long story short, I did my own exploration of faith, God, etc, and came to my conclusions. 4. What do you do for a living? Regional Sales Manager 5. Education level, if you are interested in sharing. BA in political science, MS in public administration 6. Anything else relevent to the conversation that you think might be important. I can appreciate other views, understand how easy it is to doubt the existence of God, but have seen the power of faith in God in my life. The hope, encouragement and joy that comes from a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. 1. What is your religion?
Christian
2. How long have you claimed these beliefs?
23 years
3. Short explanation of how you arrived at these beliefs.
A process between growing up in a Christian family, essentially sliding away from my faith in college, and returning to it later in college after a lot of reflection, study and personal experience. Long story short, I did my own exploration of faith, God, etc, and came to my conclusions.
4. What do you do for a living?
Regional Sales Manager
5. Education level, if you are interested in sharing.
BA in political science, MS in public administration
6. Anything else relevent to the conversation that you think might be important.
I can appreciate other views, understand how easy it is to doubt the existence of God, but have seen the power of faith in God in my life. The hope, encouragement and joy that comes from a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

]]> by: nottrue http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-971 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:25:54 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-971 Sorry ... "supposed to be the Zenith". Sorry … “supposed to be the Zenith”.

]]> by: nottrue http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-970 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:22:59 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-970 Oh, I didn't doubt you for one moment, I've known a few. Have you done Hawaii yet, it's suppost to be zenith, as it were. Oh, I didn’t doubt you for one moment, I’ve known a few. Have you done Hawaii yet, it’s suppost to be zenith, as it were.

]]> by: AdamC http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-969 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 13:32:01 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-969 Thanks nottrue. Thing is I'm really not kidding. I buy books, read magazines, internet, etc. Whenever I move to a new town, I look up the local triathlon/cycling/running store and try to connect with the community (like finding a church). When I'm out riding or running on a Sunday I'll look over at anyone with me (or just note to myself) that some other poor suckers are stuck in a damn pew at this hour instead of being out having fun like us. We even have some myths/legends that are loosely based on fact (Phidippides). And grand stories of epic battles (Dave Scott vs. Mark Allen year after year). And when I find someone who expresses the slightest interest you should hear me evangelize to the high heavens, HALLELUJAH! We are a non-abrahamic religion. I say that because the abrahamic religions are the only ones where the "faithful" are exhorted to kill those who follow a different path. We do not kill bowlers or skiers or couch-spuds. Non-abrahamic. We even have a "Triathlete's Bible" ;-) Later. Oh yeah, nice site Cassandra. Thanks nottrue.

Thing is I’m really not kidding. I buy books, read magazines, internet, etc. Whenever I move to a new town, I look up the local triathlon/cycling/running store and try to connect with the community (like finding a church). When I’m out riding or running on a Sunday I’ll look over at anyone with me (or just note to myself) that some other poor suckers are stuck in a damn pew at this hour instead of being out having fun like us.

We even have some myths/legends that are loosely based on fact (Phidippides). And grand stories of epic battles (Dave Scott vs. Mark Allen year after year).

And when I find someone who expresses the slightest interest you should hear me evangelize to the high heavens, HALLELUJAH!

We are a non-abrahamic religion. I say that because the abrahamic religions are the only ones where the “faithful” are exhorted to kill those who follow a different path. We do not kill bowlers or skiers or couch-spuds. Non-abrahamic.

We even have a “Triathlete’s Bible” ;-)

Later.

Oh yeah, nice site Cassandra.

]]> by: nottrue http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-968 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 05:56:06 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-968 AdamC: <i>1. What is your religion? Triathlete</i> Ha! touche. I am glad that someone deviated from the norm ... I, myself, was going reply with "brushing my teething", but quickly progressed to other ritualist practices ... the mental tally became just too long, for I am indeed religious about many things, all of which elicit euphoric emotion (also have a penchant for alliteration it seems). Obsessive-compulsive Disorder mmmm, one could present a nice syllogistic arguement (based on a false premise of course), applying about as much logic as theists employ. AdamC: 1. What is your religion?
Triathlete

Ha! touche. I am glad that someone deviated from the norm … I, myself, was going reply with “brushing my teething”, but quickly progressed to other ritualist practices … the mental tally became just too long, for I am indeed religious about many things, all of which elicit euphoric emotion (also have a penchant for alliteration it seems).

Obsessive-compulsive Disorder mmmm, one could present a nice syllogistic arguement (based on a false premise of course), applying about as much logic as theists employ.

]]> by: Martian http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-967 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:34:21 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-967 <i>The Bible needs authentication, but not from anything in this world. It receives its authentication from God who wrote it and He needs none. God needs no one to call Him God to know He is God.</i> The above is circular logic. This whole discussion boils down to this: Much like children want to believe in Santa Claus, some people want to believe in a god. No matter how much you want it, it doesn't make it true. A week or so ago I posted about <a href="http://townofautumn.com/blog/2006/04/05/the-dragon-in-my-garage/" rel="nofollow">The Dragon In My Garage</a>. I think it spells things out pretty clearly. The Bible needs authentication, but not from anything in this world. It receives its authentication from God who wrote it and He needs none. God needs no one to call Him God to know He is God.

The above is circular logic.

This whole discussion boils down to this: Much like children want to believe in Santa Claus, some people want to believe in a god.

No matter how much you want it, it doesn’t make it true.

A week or so ago I posted about The Dragon In My Garage. I think it spells things out pretty clearly.

]]> by: AdamC http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-966 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:58:32 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-966 1. What is your religion? Triathlete 2. How long have you claimed these beliefs? 4 years 3. Short explanation of how you arrived at these beliefs. Flirted with it for a few years, then had a massive conversion experience in college. Plus I discovered that the roads are usually empty early Sunday mornings, which means I don't have to worry about traffic when I'm getting my long ride. 4. What do you do for a living? Facilities Engineer 5. Education level, if you are interested in sharing. BS in Mech Eng 6. Anything else relevent to the conversation that you think might be important. Oh yeah, it seems retarded to have to say it but I don't believe in fairy tale creatures like Vishnu, Jesus, Apollo, Baba Yaga, and Bigfoot. 1. What is your religion?
Triathlete
2. How long have you claimed these beliefs?
4 years
3. Short explanation of how you arrived at these beliefs.
Flirted with it for a few years, then had a massive conversion experience in college. Plus I discovered that the roads are usually empty early Sunday mornings, which means I don’t have to worry about traffic when I’m getting my long ride.
4. What do you do for a living?
Facilities Engineer
5. Education level, if you are interested in sharing.
BS in Mech Eng
6. Anything else relevent to the conversation that you think might be important.
Oh yeah, it seems retarded to have to say it but I don’t believe in fairy tale creatures like Vishnu, Jesus, Apollo, Baba Yaga, and Bigfoot.

]]> by: Contemplator http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-965 Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:19:09 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-965 Nancy, no, the university is most certainly not non profit, LOL. For what they pay us, though, you sure could make a case for it. The non profit I help run is a literacy center for two counties. So I do two things. (More, really, but these are the most time consuming.) I'm going to take these conversations over to the forum to keep poor Cassandra from getting an inbox slammed with post messages. I check my site daily, so depending on what you want, I suppose you could contact me there, or over at the forum. Nancy, no, the university is most certainly not non profit, LOL. For what they pay us, though, you sure could make a case for it.

The non profit I help run is a literacy center for two counties. So I do two things. (More, really, but these are the most time consuming.)

I’m going to take these conversations over to the forum to keep poor Cassandra from getting an inbox slammed with post messages. I check my site daily, so depending on what you want, I suppose you could contact me there, or over at the forum.

]]> by: Nancy Davis http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-964 Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:43:59 +0000 http://www.theatheistmama.com/2006/04/lets-play-a-game.html#comment-964 Contemplator, Me, the novice blogger, did not know I needed to click your name to get to your site, nor had I spoke about it with Kerry or Jess, that is why I asked. The journal Jessica mentioned is the background paper to the book Faith of the Fatherless (Amazon) by New York University (Stanford 1962) psychology professor Paul C. Vitz. Qualifier: he does not say this applies to all atheists. Give his name a google to find the reprint of the paper. I think you will find it thougt-provoking. You say you are "in the university" is that the non-profit biz you are in? Also, is this still the best site to contact you, or would you prefer your site, or RR's Forum? Contemplator,

Me, the novice blogger, did not know I needed to click your name to get to your site, nor had I spoke about it with Kerry or Jess, that is why I asked.

The journal Jessica mentioned is the background paper to the book Faith of the Fatherless (Amazon) by New York University (Stanford 1962) psychology professor Paul C. Vitz. Qualifier: he does not say this applies to all atheists. Give his name a google to find the reprint of the paper. I think you will find it thougt-provoking.

You say you are “in the university” is that the non-profit biz you are in?

Also, is this still the best site to contact you, or would you prefer your site, or RR’s Forum?

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